
Hello Debra, Hello Logan,
It is a long time since I bought your package. Must have been May or June last year. But now a serious question poped up and I hope you can help me with that.
Is it legal to use any of the PD stuff (books, fotos, movies, etc.) that’s available in the US to sell it in Germany?
I’m thinking of selling special books on CDs for the use as resouces in English courses at school.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Kind regards
Jens
Hi Jens,
Thanks for the great question and I ‘m really glad you are asking this.
As time permits, I recommend a review of our report, “The Global Copyright Dilemma” which came as a bonus with your kit.
Most countries of the European Union do actually apply the “rule of the shorter term” or “comparison of terms” to works published outside of the EU as directed by the Copyright Duration Directive (93/98/EEC).
In a nutshell, this means that countries of the European Union can judge a foreign work’s (non-EU countries) copyright status based upon the copyright status of the work in it’s country of origin.
This is why in many EU countries, if a work is Public Domain in the U.S., it’s automatically Public Domain in most EU countries as well.
However, the articles within the Copyright Duration Directive (93/98/EEC) that provide for the mandatory application of the rule of the shorter term can be overrode if there were signed bilateral copyright treaties in place before the Copyright Duration Directive (93/98/EEC) came into existence.
Unfortunately, such is the particular case with Germany.
In 1892, the U.S. and Germany agreed on a bilateral copyright treaty that stated that works of either country were copyrighted in the other country by the other country’s laws.
This treaty is still in effect and enforced today, even though the treaty was signed into effect over 100 years ago.
In other words, just because a work is Public Domain in the United States doesn’t necessarily mean that the same work is no longer under copyright protection in Germany.
When assessing the copyright status of a Public Domain book from the U.S., you have to apply Germany’s copyright laws to the work to determine the copyright status of the work in Germany.
Since Germany follows the 70 years after author’s death copyright duration like other countries of the EU, you would have to take that into account.
As a helpful rule of thumb, any book that is Public Domain in the U.S. will be Public Domain in Germany as well as long as the author of the book died more than 70 years ago, or before 1940 as this is being written.
Let me know if you need any further clarification but basically what this whole thing means is that you have to apply the copyright rules of Germany to any Public Domain work from the U.S. that you may be thinking about using before making a determination as to whether the work is actually Public Domain in Germany as well.
As long as you are using Public Domain material to create physical products for sale in Germany, this will apply.
Thanks Jens!
Logan
Hi Logan,
Thanks for your quick reply.
Your explanation helped a lot to clarify that issue, especially for written materials. But what about music, photos and videos that are e.g. downloadable from the Library Of Congress? How to deal with that?
Let’s say I’d like to create a CD-ROM with photos and videos of World War 2. As you stated in one of your newsletters, they are mostly PD in the US. But how can I find out if they are PD in Germany as well? Or can I suppose, that if the material is from an official US government site and the resources are PD, that they are PD in Germany too?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Jens
Hi Jens,
The materials at the Library of Congress consist of both materials produced by individuals as well as materials produced by the U.S. Government so we have to address this in these two very different areas…
As far as music, photos and videos created by individuals, just like written
materials, you have to apply German copyright law to these items on an individual basis to determine what their copyright status is in Germany.
As far as music, photos and videos created by the U.S Government, you’re right, these works are automatically Public Domain in the U.S. technically however, a U.S. Government work, although excluded from copyright protection within the U.S., may actually be protected by copyright abroad.
U.S. Copyright Laws basically state that works produced by the U.S. Government may be protected by the copyright laws of foreign countries.
That’s why sometimes in a work produced by the U.S. Government, you’ll see a notice such as this…
“This is a work of the U.S. Government and is not subject to copyright protection in the United States. Foreign copyrights may apply.”
For instance, when determining the copyright status of a U.S. Government
document in Germany, you have to apply German copyright law to it and
realize that techinically, it would receive the same amount of protection
that Germany currently offers to documents produced by it’s own government.
I don’t know what the copyright duration is for works produced by the German government – for some reason that simple fact continues to allude me.
If you can find that out, then you’ll know how long U.S. Government works
are protected in Germany.
I just wanted you to understand all of the above before I told you this…
The fact of the matter is that although U.S. Government works do enjoy
copyright protection abroad, rarely if ever is this copyright protection actually enforced.
In other words, I seriously doubt that you would get yourself into trouble
with the U.S. Government for selling CD’s in Germany packed with U.S.
Government produced information that’s Public Domain in the U.S. – the U.S.
Government has much bigger issues to worry about.
Thanks Jens,

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Hi Logan this was extremely well said. I do not think you will get into trouble with the US government either. The thing is that we have an awful lot of so-called lawyers here in Germany that earn s**tloads of money by just sending out cease-and-desist letters with penaltys of thousands of Dollars. It is not important if they have an official appointment from the US government. They just claim they have it, go to court, issue the C&D-letters and wait for the reaction. Most people pay hundreds of Dollars just because they don´t have the money to fight through a long and painful court-going.
This is obviously the very worst example, but still it happens. I do a lot with US government releases but all of my stuff is only released in the US. Be careful on your way, Jens, this road is slippery when wet. All the best, Juergen.
@Logan, thanks for this post, I really admire your knowledge about global copyright issues. You really hit bulls eye with your posting, right down to the point.
Thanks Juergen…
Hmmm, it would seem that things work considerably different over there. In my experience, “Cease & Desist” letters are usually sent in an effort to avoid legal entanglement, not after legal proceedings have already started. These letters are generally used a warning ~ “stop it now or we’re going to pursue this to the fullest extent of the law”.
You made an excellent point by saying, “I do a lot with US government releases but all of my stuff is only released in the US.”. We discuss this exetensively on our “Global Copyright Dilemma” book. As you know, most of what I was saying here applies to the fact that he is trying to sell this stuff in Germany. Hosting digital downloads on U.S. based servers or distributing physical product in the U.S. would not present an issue.
Thanks Juergen!
I just read your comment a little closer. I think I understand what you were saying better now ~ you mean that there’s lawyers over there that target publishers and scam them using illegitimate scare tactics to try and collect money that they actually have no entitlement to whatsoever. They figure publishers would rather fork over a few hundred dollars to “settle out of court” and the money goes in the lawyers pocket and yet the U.S. Goverment didn’t even know this was happening or even initiate it to begin with ~ when the reality is that if they told these scam artists to “go blow”, the lawyer would probably roll over because he had no legal ground to stand on as only the actual copyright holder can sue for damages. That’s pretty brazen. Boy, would I like to get my hands on one of those guys!
Logan, you got it , that´s exactly what I wanted to say. These guys are making their money only by sending out C&D letters and frightening guys. There is only one point where you are not right: they stand on legal ground indeed! I would bet that if I would release a product based on the NASA software here in Germany I would be sued. From the legal side this product developed by the US government is in no way public domain here. And even if the US government would not shed a single tear because of a few bucks I can make with it, just because I am breaking a law I would never be able to win a law suit. I know that´s crazy, but that´s also reality. But thanks to eBay and Amazon I can do business in the US;-) Keep on rocking, I like your blog very much! Best, Juergen.
Hello Debra, you were so clear and specific on the case of Germany that I would like to ask you if, by chance, you know if Italy fully apply the rule of the shorter notice period or if there are problems and tricks such Germany!
Thanks for the help
Marco
Hi Marco,
Italy does follow the rule of the shorter term so any U.S. published public
domain work will automatically be in the public domain in Italy as well.
Thanks!